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Smart Money Magazine Takes a Swipe at Vets

A recent article from Smart Money Magazine cites exorbitant prices, poor dental training, and potentially “harmful” vaccinations as issues that veterinarians “won’t tell you about.” Could articles like this lead to clients losing the high level of trust they have traditionally expressed for veterinarians and their staffs? Do you think these comments are unfounded or might they have some merit? Tell us what you think about the list!

 

Below is Smart Money’s list of “Things Veterinarians Won’t Tell You About.

1. “Good thing you love Sparky like a son. His care could cost as much.”

2. “Vaccinating your pet may do more harm than good.”

3. “I have more complaints filed against me than a used-car lot—not that you’ll ever know about it.

4. “Real dentists are for people.”

5. “Surgery’s a cinch. It’s the overnight stay you should be worried about.”

6. “Personally, I think declawing is inhumane. But, hey, it’s your dime.”

7. “Go ahead and sue—it’ll hurt you more than it hurts me.”

8. “The key to my thriving practice? Location, location, location.”

9. “I haven’t the foggiest idea why your dog’s acting crazy.”

10. Our technology may be state-of-the-art, but our industry regulations are still in the Dark Ages.”
 

22 comments so far...

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Killer Comments

No wonder the suicide rate is on the rise amongst veterinarians. People just don't appreciate the amount of knowledge it takes and the time and money it took to get the degree. They pray of the compassion of people who already do great things for so much less than they should. These people should be ashamed at themselves for perpetuating such a negative viewpoint. Do they no know that at some point people won't want to be vets if they keep it up? As it is, the desire to own a practice is going down steadily. Scare for me...I would like to sell at some point.

lets talk about money

The author of this article does not know what they are talking about and clearly did not do the appropopriate amout of research or fact checking. To pick only one of the numerous erroneous points, lets look at the cost of an MRI for a dog versus a human.

DOG: Pre-anesthesia bloodwork, general anesthesia with basic monitoring (IV fluids, EKG, Blood Pressure, Pulse Ox & end-tidal CO2) a dedicated anesthetist monitoring anesthesia and results interpreted by a board certified radiologist. cost = $1,200.00 - $1,500.00.

Human: Pre-anesthesia bloodwork, general anesthesia with basic monitoring (IV fluids, EKG, Blood Pressure, Pulse Ox & end-tidal CO2) a dedicated anesthetist monitoring anesthesia and results interpreted by a board certified radiologist. cost = $12,000.00 - $20,000.00.

Please, by any means available, explain to me how the veterinary pricing schedule is "exorbinant".
"Real" dentists, just like "real" doctors and "real" veterinarians, are for anyone who does not want themselves or their animals to be in pain and wants the best care available for themselves or their animals.

I would like to add that I am a veterinarian, I work only on wildlife and environmental issues and I derive no money at all from the domestic animal sector.

Hmmm

I actually think vaccines are overused sometimes. I'm personally a minimalist and have seen too many fibrosarcs to endanger my own cats needlessly. Also I have fellow technicians who don't have a clue about dentistry, yet do them regularly.

I feel the difference between a great vet and a good one is that a great vet has good instincts and trusts them. A great vet practices common sense. Does an indoor only cat really need that annual dewormer and FeLV vax? Fear sells and we could easily nickle-and-dime our clients. But will they come back each year for basic exams and prevention? I'm not sure.

Cost of Soda

I agree in general that it's silly for people to think vets should charge less simply because we're working on an animal, when the technology and training are the same.

However, I did have a few points to make: first, I think there's almost universal agreement that human healthcare is a broken system and that patients are charged far too much, so that's not a great yardstick for comparison. Second, if you've never heard people complain about the price of popcorn and soda at the cinema, then you haven't been around many people for very long.

I have a general question: how do you approach the question of whether you're charging too much? It seems to me that a lot of people base the answer to that question on concepts like what is "fair" compared to similar fields or businesses-- for example, if the vet down the street does it for x dollars, I must be undercharging if I get less.

My hunch-- and I'm a student, still naive to the realities of the business world-- is that a better way to answer that question would be to measure the quality of life of the veterinarian and the staff at the business, as well as the sustainability of the practice and the satisfaction of the clients. Can the vet pay back school loans, put their kids through school, live in a comfortable house and engage in satisfying hobbies? Do the front office staff feel they're being paid enough that they can be free from undue financial hardship, and are their hours enough that they feel they're contributing without feeling that they have no time for their family or home life?

I don't understand why any questions besides these need to be asked-- why is it relevant what human doctors or other vets charge, so long as these questions are sufficient? I sort of see this as determining not what you should charge, but what you *could* charge, and while that may make for a successful business, I'm not sure that it makes for a business that improves the world or the lives of the staff, owners, or clients of that business.

I have a tendency to miss the obvious when forming grand theories about the world, so I hope someone will point out flaws in my reasoning if they see them!

One less magazine to read

Well that simplifies things for me. Along with Consumer Reports, I will no longer be reading Smart Money Magazine. For years I have told anyone who will listen that Consumer Reports is biased and the results they come up with reflect nothing less than lack of common sense...if not downright stupidity. I can now be fully confident that Smart Money Magazine comes from the same school of "journalism" as does Consumer Reports. (Note To Journalists: Don't Get Veterinarians Mad At You! We have lots of clients who read...) Dr. C

Comments over the Magazines Statements

Everybody thinks that vets charge the most. I think, the amount of work we do, the services we provide to our patients and clients, we, in-fact don't charge enough. The standard of care people have been expecting, the cost of equipment,cost of training the staff, the speed at which the results are delivered in vet practices are amazing as compared to human hospitals.
Does anybody know cost of human abdomenal ultrasound??, why it should be less in pets?? it is the same machine to do the ultra-sound & it is 3 yr residency in Radiology to interpret the results. ( But I tell you it is much less than what human hospitals charge.)
If someone wants to know rip-off find the actual cost of popcorn and soda in a cinema. And people don't complain about that at all.
Right Eh ?
manjit jammu

Old regulations??

I don't know where this magazine got the data, I work in Ontario Canada and the rgulations we have are the strictest in whole of North America. Sometimes I feel they are pro-consumer than pro-vet. But I like it as it keeps us on our toes and gets the best out of us.
Sincerely
Manjit Jammu

"combo wombo" shots?

hadn't heard that one before

The author got one right.

Our technology may be state-of-the-art, but our industry regulations are still in the Dark Ages.”

Smacks of a personal bad experience and really sh#*ty "journalis

Very poor journalism that smacks of a person having a bad experience at a veterinary visit. I read the quotes and would not even give this article the time of day.....ALL of the cute little quotes are assumption based and non-factual.

Perhaps it was poor communication between the vet hospital and the client, maybe the client is tight on cash and was offended by the costs, but what really screams is that this "journalist" had a bad experience and did not take the time to ask all the questions that he/she made comments about. I personally have NO PROBLEM in explaining why things cost what they do. Most sane minded clients walk away from the visit knowing they got a value for the services provided.

Communication is EVERYTHING!

It's no wonder...

I actually can see where the journalist may get some of his/her misinformation. Afterall, how many DVMs are employing real live educated and credentialed VTs to perform many of these duties (dental prophy etc)? And of those who are not, do you honestly think they are taking the time to explain to the client that their "high-school-kid-dying-to-get-into-vet-school-one-day turned OJT VA to pass the time" is actually going to be cleaning Fluffy's teeth AND monitoring anesthesia with ZERO education on the subject?

If veterinary medicine is not respected like human medicine, then perhaps we should stop lowering our standards and live up to our clients expectations for real medicine which involves not only an educated DVM but also educated support staff.

Educationed? urmmm educated

Educationed? urmmm educated ... teach me to not preview before sending.

Hmm, I think we would all

Hmm, I think we would all have a different view of the article if just the title was changed to "10 things to talk to your vet about." But that headline just wouldn't catch the eye of the reader now would it? We can sit here and talk bad about journalists for just as long as they sit around and talk bad about vets but does that makes us any better than them? The truth is, they are just doing their job. If readers didn't demand sensationalism, journalists wouldn't dish it out.

I do think this article could serve as a wake up call to vets. Do you discuss these topics with clients? Are you prepared to give a rational, non-emotional response if such topics were brought up to you during a visit? If there is something that you don't have a lot of experince with(invasive denistry, behavior, etc) would you let the client know and give the option of a referral or would you go ahead and do it because you think you will probably be able to handle it? Do you take as few risks as possible or do you cut corners to save the client a few bucks?

I think this article won't make clients lose trust but instead will change their blind trust into an educationed and informed trust which I think is a VERY good thing.

I just read the article and

I just read the article and feel on balance it is positive for the veterinary profession. What it does is educate our potential clients to ask the right kind of questions so that they will seek the type of care that is right for their pet. Unfortunately, as nearly all media these days, it focuses on the negative outcomes that occur in some situations to draw attention to the article. However, if the reader reads not only the sensational headlines but the copy below as well they will finish this article gaining the information they need to find a veterinary practice that will truly care for their pet.

Education

I have not read the article yet, but will.

I am amazed at the lack of knowledge of some individuals in the journalism field. They need to look at the cost of treating distemper/parvo versus keeping up the vaccinations. They need to look at the cost of treating heartworm instead of keeping the animals on preventative medicine. This is the real problem, they think we are over vaccinating.
We have gone to a (3) year protocal on many vaccinations and as I understand, the FDA is going to take the labeling off to let the vet determine how long the vaccine should be good for. I am also against this as it puts entirely too much of the responsibility on the veterinarian.

Misinformation - formidable enemy!

All too often the media puts forth articles intended to "educate" the public, when in reality they create more mistrust and confusion than anything else. There may be truth in such statements as "Vaccinations may do more harm than good." These partial truths and generalizations as well as "My friend's dog..." and "My vet tech friend said..." drive home more than ever how critical communication with our clients is! This statement is especially true for support staff, who usually spend more time with clients than the veterinarians we work for. We must strive to be knowledgeable about our field no matter what our station, from receptionist to kennel aid to doctor. Also, I find it hard to believe that the majority of us in this field agree with those statements. I agree with the earlier post that the best we can do is educate our clients and respond to media items such as these by attempting to educate those in the media as well.

What your vet won't tell you

I am continually dismayed as to why journalist feel that veterinarians are such an easy target. Yes, I agree that there are some bad vets out there, just like there are bad M.D.s, bad dentists, bad car mechanics, etc. Obviously journalist want their articles to be read, that is how they make a living. If they could be fair in their articles and cite examples of outstanding veterinary care and poor vet care but as we all know "fair" doesn't sell news articles. In my practice we have a team approach. We survey clients constantly to make sure we are meeting their expectations and their needs. We are committed to practicing not only the best veterinary care possible (including referrals to specialists without reservation) and the best customer service and care. Recently a colleague in my area held a training session for his staff in customer service. They called 30 local vet offices. Of those 30 our office was the number one in customer service as experienced over the phone by the staff who were being trained calling us. I shared this with our entire team. I was so proud of them! Why journalist cannot write positive articles about such things is simple. They don't care. They just want to sell their articles.

As for charging what we are worth. My staff is worth their weight in gold. They are the best group of caring, concerned and talented bunch of people I have ever worked with. They always go above and beyond the call of duty for our clients. I work long hours to find answers for all my patients and their owners. Do I charge for all those extra things my staff and I do for our patients and clients? Absolutely not! It is traditional that vets have never charged enough for their services. Why? Because we are not in it for the money (yes there are exceptions). We are in veterinary medicine because it is a calling, a way of life. It is who most of us are! It is how we define ourselves in our every day lives. Yes, we all have interests outside of veterinary medicine but it is still a primary factor in how we define ourselves. Hopefully the author of this article will print another article praising those vets who put their lives on the line in the armed forces, during natural disasters such as hurricanes, floods and fires. Also it would be wonderful if the author wrote a piece citing examples of all those vets who have dedicated themselves to saving pets lives, easing their suffering, practicing sensible vaccine protocols, etc.

We are such easy targets because we feel that if we fight back against such articles we look like the villains that are portrayed in those articles. We stood up for ourselves to Consumer Reports and made a significant impact (at least I think we did). Let us always stand up for ourselves and our profession. And let us work hard to rid ourselves of those in our profession whose actions generate articles such as these.

8/22/09 Sharon

Tragedy sells....in the media

It is unfortunate that this journalist had to find all these unusual horror stories to illustrate why clients should ask their (prospective) veterinarian a few questions. By citing these rare events, it makes it seem to the unsuspecting public that unless they thoroughly research a hospital or clinic, a tragedy is sure to befall their faithful companion. A more fair depiction would have included some attempt to include some statistics that undoubtedly would reassure the public how uncommonly cats swell after an OVH. I think Ms Barron felt she had to tell horror stories to get the reader to keep clicking to the end of her article to look good to her editor.
L.D.Lawrence, DVM

Lets read the article more objectively

After reading the actual article, I'm not sure I am upset at all. Each question/statement is not answered in a darkening manner. Most are answered with the proper educational statements. This article recommends that the owner ask questions and find a veterinarian that believes as they do.

Don't we all want the educated clients. We want the people to ask questions about their animal's treatment, vaccinations, overnight stays and surgeries. Of course they put in some scare stories about pets dying and they don't say that any anesthesia has a risk associated, but in general I think the article is good education. It took some horrible statements and then gave owners a way to inquire about the services.

None of us have anything we should want to hide. I want my clients to ask questions about their pet's health care.

I don't like how this article is started, but I do think it works out for us in the end.

Let's not add insult to injury --

I would like to think that we can rise above this sort of thing. Our clients know we care, and many of them like us better than their own doctors. Let's not add insult to injury with knee jerk reactions (though I know we're all frustrated). Heather, when you track down this author, have a nice educational chat with him/her and find out if s/he has had a bad experience and therefore feels the need to lash out at all of us. Maybe s/he can be persuaded to write something more balanced as follow-up to this nasty piece!

Link to original article

In case you want to read the original article, here is the link (or click above...looks like it's linked there as well).

http://www.smartmoney.com/spending/rip-offs/10-Things-Your-Veterinarian-...

Who wrote this article?

This is ridiculous and insulting. It's articles like these and the ones in consumer reports that keep telling people we charge too much for a substandard job that makes our jobs difficult everyday! Veterinary medicine is not respected like human medicine and uneducated journalists like this are one of the main reasons.

As an industry we have a difficult time standing up for ourselves and letting people know we are worth what we charge and most of the time are worth MORE than we charge. In fact, at our practice I'd say the pets get treated better than I have at my own doctor - for years.

This disgusts and saddens me. I am going to have to track down this article and see who wrote this and where the research was done.

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